Rewrite proposal #111

cwilso · 2023-08-21T23:41:01Z

This brings forward the proposal from #103, taking guidance from comments there, #108, #104, and our 10-Aug-2023 meeting. I will put in comments in the PR to explain rationale for some pieces: the general goal was to reduce this to a much clearer set of sections:

Top-level mission statement
introduction
How the W3C views the Web
How the W3C views itself
Defining operational principles to follow

Also note that this fixes #102 and #88.

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inspired by #104.

cwilso · 2023-08-21T23:41:41Z

Vision/Vision.bs

@@ -23,28 +23,15 @@ Status Text:
 Boilerplate: omit conformance
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-# Intention # {#intention}


"Intention" is an odd word, was introduced in the port to BS, and is not how I would have described this section.

cwilso · 2023-08-21T23:42:03Z

Vision/Vision.bs


 	This document is an articulation
-	of W3C’s mission, values, purpose, and principles;


reflects change to the document structure.

I kinda liked the original version. It doesn't mirror the document structure, but I think it gets more at the heart of what this document is trying to do. E.g. we're articulating our vision of the Web because this is how we express our values and purpose, but the actual purpose of the document is to articulate the values and purpose.

I agree with fantasai. I mentioned at the AB F2F discussion that I really admire the previous Vision for putting into words the things I've heard Tim say over many years. I noted I never saw Tim put all these thoughts down all together in this way. That consolidation or articulation of Tim's Vision was great, and I wouldn't want to lose it.

Tim acted for many years as a trusted voice for his understanding for the potential of web technologies, and the importance of bearing in mind their impact on and for humanity (his vision). Many who joined the W3C were in alignment with and willing to come together to continue and expand positive and innovative ideas for the Web. As Tantek and others have noted, as W3C has moved to a Director-free status, we no longer have Tim as this one voice. Therefore to articulate and expand W3C's Vision for the web and web technologies is important so the organization is shown have a deep understanding on where we are heading and why.

(Note that Amy's comment was about retaining the bullet list for "vision of the Web", not this line.

cwilso · 2023-08-21T23:42:37Z

Vision/Vision.bs

 	in other words, our vision for W3C as an organization
 	in the context of our vision for the Web itself.
 	The goal of this vision is not to predict the future,
 	but to define shared principles to guide our decisions.

-	This document is not intended to be


This section is unnecessary.

I think it was useful, but it may indeed no longer be necessary.

cwilso · 2023-08-21T23:46:52Z

Vision/Vision.bs

+	in defining a World Wide Web that puts users first, 
+	by developing protocols and guidelines 
+	to empower an ethical, equitable, informed, and interconnected society.
+


Added mission statement.

I think the addition of this section deserves its own issue and PR for discussion. I 100% agree with adding such a section. I think it's going in a good general direction. But I think we have a bit more to discuss on it before we declare it as our replacement for the existing mission statement, and I don't want to entangle getting consensus on this with the rest of the proposed improvements here.

cwilso · 2023-08-21T23:47:19Z

Vision/Vision.bs

 # Introduction # {#intro}

 	The World Wide Web was originally conceived
 	as a tool for sharing information.
-	It has evolved into a fundamental part of humanity,
+	It has evolved rapidly into a fundamental part of humanity,
+	sparking major social change by 


Restructured this paragraph to simplify flow.

+1 to this restructuring (which encompasses also the next diff chunk).

cwilso · 2023-08-21T23:48:49Z

Vision/Vision.bs

+
+# Operational Principles for W3C # {#op-principles}
+
+	The fundamental function of W3C is to provide an open forum


Note "function" vs "purpose" in original.

Vision/Vision.bs

cwilso · 2023-08-21T23:50:24Z

Vision/Vision.bs

-	* We strongly emphasize accessibility,
+	* We create standards with an ethical intent to improve 
+		equity of access and participation on the Web. 
+		We will ensure the web platform meets broad goals 


More operational/action-focused.

cwilso · 2023-08-21T23:51:09Z

Vision/Vision.bs

-	* Ensure the Web is trustworthy,
-		by ensuring security and privacy for users.
-	* Aim to reduce centralization in Web architecture,
+	* We believe wide and interoperable implementation is a 


Interop is critical. Note the following pulls in some themes from previous multiple lists.

Vision/Vision.bs

Man, I hate the way this sounds, but it is correct. Co-authored-by: Chris Needham <[email protected]>

Vision/Vision.bs

Co-authored-by: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <[email protected]>

As per comment in #104

As per comment in #104 (comment)

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fantasai

My top-level comment here is, I would like to see this broken down into multiple PRs, one for each high-level changeset. As I mentioned in #108 I think they deserve individual discussion, and combining them all into one changeset makes it hard to discuss, review, and meaningfully approve each change.

fantasai · 2023-08-24T04:11:31Z

Vision/Vision.bs


 	This document is an articulation
-	of W3C’s mission, values, purpose, and principles;


I kinda liked the original version. It doesn't mirror the document structure, but I think it gets more at the heart of what this document is trying to do. E.g. we're articulating our vision of the Web because this is how we express our values and purpose, but the actual purpose of the document is to articulate the values and purpose.

fantasai · 2023-08-24T04:11:54Z

Vision/Vision.bs

 	in other words, our vision for W3C as an organization
 	in the context of our vision for the Web itself.
 	The goal of this vision is not to predict the future,
 	but to define shared principles to guide our decisions.

-	This document is not intended to be


I think it was useful, but it may indeed no longer be necessary.

fantasai · 2023-08-24T04:14:46Z

Vision/Vision.bs

+	in defining a World Wide Web that puts users first, 
+	by developing protocols and guidelines 
+	to empower an ethical, equitable, informed, and interconnected society.
+


I think the addition of this section deserves its own issue and PR for discussion. I 100% agree with adding such a section. I think it's going in a good general direction. But I think we have a bit more to discuss on it before we declare it as our replacement for the existing mission statement, and I don't want to entangle getting consensus on this with the rest of the proposed improvements here.

fantasai · 2023-08-24T04:15:46Z

Vision/Vision.bs

 # Introduction # {#intro}

 	The World Wide Web was originally conceived
 	as a tool for sharing information.
-	It has evolved into a fundamental part of humanity,
+	It has evolved rapidly into a fundamental part of humanity,
+	sparking major social change by 


+1 to this restructuring (which encompasses also the next diff chunk).

fantasai · 2023-08-24T04:16:23Z

Vision/Vision.bs

-	and the trust it earns from them.
+	The Web has had a tremendous impact on the world, 
+	and its impact will continue to grow in the future, 
+	as it expands reach, knowledge, education and services even more broadly.


Oxford comma. Also “expands reach” is a bit of an awkward phrase, “reach” of what?

Oxford comma resolved.

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tantek

As noted in this morning's Vision TF call, I approve landing this (including edits/changes made since the call) and further iterating from there.

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inspired by #104.

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Proposal sketch in Markdown for discussion #103

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avoiding dupes, broader critical axes of diverse voices #89

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Tweaked per Dom's comments in #103.

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One more tweak per Dom's guidance in #103

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Remove "The" in front of W3C.

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Man, I hate the way this sounds, but it is correct. Co-authored-by: Chris Needham <[email protected]>

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exemplifying unintended consequences #88

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separate SDOs and government relationships

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Co-authored-by: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <[email protected]>

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Feedback on “different approaches” #108

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"Growing impact"

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As per comment in #104

"respectful"

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As per comment in #104 (comment)

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Re-added "We put the needs of users first"

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Remove "must" in one instance

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Re-add consensus-building point.

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"We are" for consistency

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		This document is an articulation
		of W3C’s mission, values, purpose, and principles;


		# Operational Principles for W3C # {#op-principles}

		The fundamental function of W3C is to provide an open forum

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