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Oh this is interesting bc I feel like I've seen ethernet RJ45 jacks with the choke facing in either direction. Like sometimes it faces the PHY, other times it faces the input. But I could be misremembering. But for a rule of thumb I think just doing what the above picture says sounds just fine to me |
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Trace Length Matching?In a video discussion we talked about length matching as it relates to signal phase:
So we concluded a trace pair that was 1440mm longer than another would have its differential signal arrive about one full phase later. That'd definitely be wrong, but we weren't sure where "right" is: what phase ratio is an Ethernet PHY allowed to express? Conservatively, we guessed somewhere between 5% and 1%. In terms of trace length, that implies keeping the a delta between differential pairs heading for the same RJ-45 jack to less than 72mm (for 5%) or 14.4mm (for 1%). |
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Given a schematic like:
We have the question: How ought we wire this into a PCB with a PHY chip and an RJ-45 jack?
I found what feels like a rich source of information looking for ethernet phy magnetics choke, including:
https://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/Appnotes/VPPD-01740.pdf —this is a nice high level summary of what magnetics are for and what problems they solve:
as well as specific wiring guides for two different "magenetics" designs (including the one above; more on that later)
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/286381/how-does-ethernet-magnetics-work —this feels appropriate to my (our?) novice level of RF isolation; the key insight for me is terminology:
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/404008/proper-connection-of-choke-coil-in-ethernet-magnetics —this starts off strong, asking "how do I wire up this particular part," and the answer (at least to me) was a bit opaque until I read the above. At that point, this started to make sense:
And finally, https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/715699/why-are-common-mode-chokes-used-in-ethernet-magnetics —this one feels a bit aspirational to me; I recognize many of the words and concepts, but it's a slow & chunky read. Not clear if having the understanding makes this one clearer, or if this one clears up having the understanding. Something that seems relevant:
So it seems like for us the common-mode choke (labeled MX1+/MX1-) ought to "face" the RJ-45 jack, and the transformer (TD1+/TD1-) ought to be connected to the PHY chip.
What to do with the center taps is still less clear, since it seems to imply a variety of tradeoffs that I don't fully understand. Some designs connect them (through capacitors) to ground, some to "chassis ground" (AKA "shield"), still others use "Bob Smith" termination. About the only consistent thing I've found is that PoE (power over ethernet [cable]) makes use of the cable-facing center tap, and thus requires the common-mode choke to go on the opposite side.
Seems like the easiest thing to do is what's suggested by ENT-AN0098 (the first item above):
which with our schematic would suggest connecting MCT1 to SHIELD through a "Bob Smith" capacitor/resistor (a 75Ω resistor and a capacitor rated at 1000pF,2kV), and TCT1 to GND through a.... "smallish" capacitor? (not sure how to size "C1", there).
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