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Attic Greek Updates - #2 - Through Chapter 6 of Mastronarde

Attic Greek Updates - #2 - Through Chapter 6 of Mastronarde

Progress

I’ve made slower progress over the last week or two.

I’ve just finished Chapter 6 of Mastronarde; by the end of this chapter, you will have seen the forms for all of the Α-declension (1st declension) nouns, and been introduced to more prepositions.

General learning process

Right now, the way I generally move through a chapter is as follows:

  1. Read / skim it once, and create flashcards for any pre-requisite knowledge, as well as vocabulary where I have already learned the forms
  2. Read it carefully, and make flashcards for vocabulary for new types of forms
  3. For non-translation exercises (e.g. identification), do only the odd-numbered exercises
  4. For translation exercises (“Translate the following into Greek”, “Translate the following sentences into English”), do all exercises
  5. Several days later, review the exercises
  6. Start a new chapter

Depending on how much time I have, any number of these steps could be a part of the same “session” (chunk of time in one day), but I’ve been trying to shoot for smaller amounts of time per day (<= 60 minutes) just to make sure I don’t find the commitment burdensome. In the long run, I will read and understand Greek, as long as I can make forward progress and maintain a commitment, as small as it may be; that is the truth of this venture. Making it easy to stay committed over a long period of time is more important than anything else.

In learning the verbs in Chapter 5, I also made the decision for now to only learn a single form, and not all the principal parts.

Reflections

The Present Active Indicative can be translated into an interrogative form

This block:

λύετε τὴν δημοκρατίαν

Can be rendered as “You (plural) overthrow / dissolve the democracy,” and “Are you (plural) overthrowing / dissolving the democracy?” The latter is harder for me to remember as a possible translation.

Translation difficulties

  • It’s relatively easy to render basic Greek into an acceptable – not necessarily eloquent – English, but rendering English into Greek is much more uncertain for a noobie. I suspect that these challenges apply for rendering of any uninflected language into a highly inflected language, not just English to Greek. It must be even more challenging for translating a highly inflected language to another highly inflected language.
    • Many possible “equivalent” translations with different word ordering and emphasis
    • In general, whether to translate literally or “idiomatically”
      • This is further made difficult by not knowing what is idiomatic without reading more Greek!
      • For example, when translating English into Greek, should I follow, as much as possible, the general Greek structure of subject, DO, IO, verb? Or should I translate as literally as possible? I can probably answer this myself by cross-referencing Mastronarde’s answer key to see what general pattern he follows.
        • Sometimes, to test myself, I will also write sentences multiple ways in the exercises just to see which ones “fit” the best.
    • How to translate prepositional phrases (are these determined by rules or context)? For example, is it correct to render the following sentence as either of: “The general (among/with the soldiers) abandons the tent and the horses”, or “The general abandons the tent and the horses among/with the soldiers?” If one reading is more acceptable, how do we know? See below:

οἱ στρατηγοὶ μετὰ τῶν στρατιωτῶν τὰς σκηνὰς καὶ τὰς ἵππους λείπουσιν

Memorizing rules

  • If you are going to memorize rules, memorize the most general rules, but don’t spend time memorizing exceptions.
  • Memorizing accent rules is less useful than recognizing the patterns, and collecting some examples across the different patterns that you can review.

Prepositions

  • There are lots of prepositions with slightly different contextual meanings
    • In order to make sense of them more easily, I’m considering making a spreadsheet of an adjacency matrix of prepositions with the associated cases they can take on.
      • For example, διά would have an adjacency with both the genitive and dative. This is helpful for giving a quick visual index, but isn’t too helpful for much more detail, so a more sophisticated diagram or visual might be more desirable.

Learning how to Learn

  • It’s always a work in progress, but I’m still trying to figure out the best way to learn Greek by myself. There’s no how to guide, but once I make it to the end of the text, I’d like to make a guide for others in my shoes.

Corrections

I think I found one issue so far in the answer key for:

  • Unit 5, Section 4, #5

ἐθελομεν is missing an acute accent on the antepenult.

Things to try for next time

  • Try making some diagrams, visuals, spreadsheets, even software, to help me learn more deeply, or more efficiently (e.g. make Anki flashcards faster and automatically)
  • Review all of the resources that Mastronarde makes available. There are a ton over at the official website for the text.