Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2023

[felixfontein]

This tracks the Community Working Group meetings for Ansible. Continues the 2022 agenda in #645.

• Meeting logs
• Invite (import by URL): ics file
• Location:
  • Matrix Room: #community:ansible.com
  • IRC Channel: #ansible-community

[felixfontein]

2023-01-04

Agenda #645 19:00:01)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

(Undoing) removals of google.cloud and cyberark.pas 19:06:10)

• google.cloud 1.1.2 has been released and the collection seems to be maintained again
• cyberark.pas has not seen any update despite a promise that something will happen, though this could also just be because of winter vacation time

adding a requirement to collection requirements for maintainers to subscribe to the news-for-maintainers repo and have this info in README for future maintainers (andersson007___, 19:17:24)

open floor

Actions

• @mariolenz Create vote to re-add google.cloud to Ansible 8 when Ansible 7.2.0 has been released with a new google.cloud version

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-04/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-04-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-04/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-04-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-04/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-04-19.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2023-01-11

Agenda #679 18:59:56)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2023 #679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• cyberark.pas seems to have some activity again (https://github.com/cyberark/ansible-security-automation-collection/commits/master)
• There is a vote on removing community.fortios from Ansible: [Vote ended on 2023-01-16] Remove community.fortios from Ansible 9 ansible-community/community-topics#179
• dellemc.powerflex will get included in Ansible if there is no objection until tomorrow (Include dellemc.powerflex collection in the ansible package (no vote's needed, will get included by default on 2023-01-12 if no objections) ansible-community/community-topics#177)
• Please take a look at the proposed roadmap for Ansible 8: adds roadmap for Ansible 8 ansible#79598 ([associated vote ended on 2023-02-09] Ansible 8 Roadmap planning ansible-community/community-topics#176)

Central Location for Release Blockers, and defining what they are (felixfontein, 19:20:10)

• Central Location for Release Blockers ansible-community/community-topics#178

How to mark collections as unmaintained

open floor

• https://beta-galaxy.ansible.com/
• The roles UI is now available on the 'production' galaxy-beta: https://beta-galaxy.ansible.com/
• https://beta-galaxy-dev.ansible.com/ui/repo/community/community/zabbix/docs/ ... note the bug

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-11/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-11-18.59.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-11/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-11-18.59.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-11/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-11-18.59.log.html

[felixfontein]

2023-01-18

Agenda #679 19:00:22)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2023 #679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• [Vote ended on 2023-01-24] Remove community.google from Ansible 9 ansible-community/community-topics#181 and [Vote ended on 2023-01-24] Remove community.skydive from Ansible 9 ansible-community/community-topics#182 are active votes (removal of community.google and community.skydive from Ansible 9)

Roadmap for Ansible 8

• adds roadmap for Ansible 8 ansible#79598
• [associated vote ended on 2023-02-09] Ansible 8 Roadmap planning ansible-community/community-topics#176

Keep cyberark.pas in Ansible 8?

• [associated vote ended on 2023-01-26] Keep cyberark.pas in Ansible 9? ansible-community/community-topics#180

Definition and workflow for Ansible release blockers 19:17:26)

• Add release blocker WF ansible-community/ansible-build-data#194

Improve Ansible PyPI README

• [associated vote ended on 2023-01-26] ansible PyPI description ansible-community/community-topics#173
• Improve ansible PyPI README ansible-community/antsibull-build#474

Docsite related things

• Opening up the docs.ansible publishing process ansible-community/community-topics#174
• Mapping user journeys for the Ansible docsite ansible-community/community-topics#175
• Please take a look at docsite personas defined here: https://hackmd.io/pZb5w5JFRQW3RJ73n23tlw?both#/
• Please also feel free to look at the demo docsite here and provide feedback. this might help demonstrate how we're putting those personas to use: https://people.redhat.com/dnaro/docsite-demo/

open floor

Actions

• @felixfontein start a vote on keeping cyberark.pas
• @felixfontein merge Add release blocker WF ansible-community/ansible-build-data#194 if nobody objects until the end of the meeting
• @felixfontein create vote for merging Improve ansible PyPI README ansible-community/antsibull-build#474 as-is (design principles can be discussed and adjusted in a follow-up if someone wants to create a proposal)

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-18/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-18-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-18/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-18-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-18/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-18-19.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2023-01-25

Agenda #679 19:00:21)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2023 #679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• A new collection inclusion request is available for review New collection: Scaleway ansible-collections/ansible-inclusion#54 Let's include something :)
• There is a vote to keep cyberark.pas in Ansible 9: [Vote ended on 2023-01-26] Cancel removal process for cyberark.pas from Ansible 9 (i.e. keep it in Ansible 9) ansible-community/community-topics#185
• There is a vote to update the PyPI description of the ansible package (now that 2.9 is EOL): [Vote ended on 2023-01-26] Update Ansible PyPI description ansible-community/community-topics#186

Ansible 8 Roadmap planning

• [associated vote ended on 2023-02-09] Ansible 8 Roadmap planning ansible-community/community-topics#176
• PR: adds roadmap for Ansible 8 ansible#79598

Can we create a way to see all 'easyfix' issues across ansible collections and projects? (felixfontein, 19:18:12)

• Can we create a way to see all 'easyfix' issues across ansible collections and projects? ansible-community/community-topics#187

Add Matrix room shield to ReadMe

• Add Matrix room shield to ReadMe ansible-community/community-topics#114
• https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.mysql
• https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/pull/114/files#diff-b335630551682c19a781afebcf4d07bf978fb1f8ac04c6bf87428ed5106870f5

Moving content from c.g/c.n to collections outside Ansible (felixfontein, 19:39:39)

• Should we allow moving content out of community.general and community.network to collections that are not part of Ansible? ansible-community/community-topics#167
• [Vote ended on 2023-02-08] Ansible docsite personas ansible-community/community-topics#189

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-25/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-25-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-25/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-25-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-25/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-25-19.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2023-02-01

Agenda #679 19:00:12)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2023 #679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Tentative schedule for Ansible Contributor Summit 2023.02 on Feb 8 is available at https://hackmd.io/@ansible-community/cs202302-planning#Tentative-Schedule-time-in-CET
• We're thinking of having an Ansible Community Social on Feb 7 in Ghent (as part of CfgMgmtCamp/Contributor Summit), please indidate your interest here by Feb 4 https://hackmd.io/@ansible-community/cs202302-planning#Ansible-Social-Tuesday-Feb-7
• There have been several package inclusion requests recently submitted for review. To learn more, see the collection inclusion workflow. Please help the community extend the package!
• We will have an Ansible stand during FOSDEM (Feb 4-5) in building K level 1
• There is a new vote on cancelling the removal process of google.cloud from Ansible since it's now again maintained: [Vote ended on 2023-02-14] Cancel removal process for google.cloud from Ansible 8 (i.e. keep it in Ansible 8) ansible-community/community-topics#195
• #info Please remember the other community votes for the Ansible 8 roadmap ([Vote ended on 2023-02-09] Ansible 8 Roadmap ansible-community/community-topics#194) and personas for the Ansible docsite ([Vote ended on 2023-02-08] Ansible docsite personas ansible-community/community-topics#189)!
• Next week's community meeting will not happen because Contributor Summit is a few hours earlier. Of course you can still hang out in #ansible-community / #community:ansible.com and have a nice chat :)
• Ansible 7.2.0 got released! Announcement: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-project/c/7QO1vXfPkic/m/GK4urSZmBAAJ

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-02-01/ansible_community_meeting.2023-02-01-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-02-01/ansible_community_meeting.2023-02-01-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-02-01/ansible_community_meeting.2023-02-01-19.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2023-02-15

Agenda #679 19:00:11)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2023 #679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Please note that there are over twenty PRs in community.general to add basic attributes to all modules. If you have time to review some of them, please take a look at this list: https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.general/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Adocs_only

Role or playbook-focused collections: include in the Ansible or not? (felixfontein, 19:15:59)

• Role or playbook-focused collections: include in the Ansible or not? If yes, which criteria/requirements to use? ansible-community/community-topics#197
• Future of the "ansible" package ansible-community/community-topics#82
• https://www.redhat.com/en/engage/project-wisdom ... "It will be accessed as a feature within the Ansible extension for Visual Studio Code, and will work with new and existing documents."

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-02-15/ansible_community_meeting.2023-02-15-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-02-15/ansible_community_meeting.2023-02-15-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-02-15/ansible_community_meeting.2023-02-15-19.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2023-03-01

Agenda #679 19:01:04)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2023 #679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Ansible Contributor Summit 2023.02 playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0FmYCf7ocrY-uMXYlnbCI2jZz8rDM8zP
• #info Ansible track @ Cfgmgmtcamp 2023 playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0FmYCf7ocrZkU2-l-dxveX9woxZUe1ic
• gwmngilfen-work blogged on the Ansible community strategy for 2023: https://ansible.github.io/community/posts/state_of_the_community_2023.html
• Ansible 7.3.0 has been Released! https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/t9ohIIqRkLU
• ansible-core 2.14.3 and 2.13.8 have been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-project/c/yokousquPLU

Semantic markup for Ansible documentation

• Discussion: [Associated vote ended on 2023-03-09] Include semantic markup in plugin DOCUMENTATION strings ansible-community/community-topics#53
• Specification: https://hackmd.io/VjN60QSoRSSeRfvGmOH1lQ
• PRs: Add new semantic markup support to ansible-doc text output and to validate-modules ansible#74937 Add new semantic markup support ansible-community/antsibull-docs#4
• example PR: Use semantic markup ansible-collections/community.dns#23

How (felixfontein, 19:19:09)

• Discussion: How to mark private plugins in a collection (with a proposal and implementation) ansible-community/community-topics#154

Ansible Community Strategy 2023

• The Ansible Community Team has been sharing and discussing (at events and online) some of our thoughts and ideas around the state of the community and what we'd like to do
• https://ansible.github.io/community/posts/state_of_the_community_2023.html
• Please add your thoughts to the two main proposals in their respective issues
• DNS & Website [associated vote ended on 2023-03-21] Community Plans part 1 - DNS & Website ansible-community/community-topics#201
• Discourse Forum for project-wide discussion [associated vote ended on 2023-03-27] Community Plans part 2 - Discourse Forum for project-wide discussion ansible-community/community-topics#202

open floor

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-01/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-01-19.01.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-01/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-01-19.01.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-01/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-01-19.01.log.html

[felixfontein]

2023-03-08

Agenda #679 19:00:27)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2023 #679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• There is a community vote ending on 2023-03-09 (tomorrow!): How should private modules/plugins be marked? [Vote ended on 2023-03-09] How should private modules/plugins be marked? ansible-community/community-topics#204
• There is a community vote ending on 2023-03-09 (tomorrow!): Start implementing Semantic Markup in Ansible Documentation [Vote ended on 2023-03-09] Start implementing Semantic Markup in Ansible Documentation ansible-community/community-topics#205
• There is a community vote ending on 2023-03-21 (~two weeks): Adopt a new upstream community website [Vote ended on 2023-03-21] Adopt a new upstream community website ansible-community/community-topics#208
• There is a community discussion about Community Plans - Discourse Forum, please share your thoughts, and a vote will be created soon [associated vote ended on 2023-03-27] Community Plans part 2 - Discourse Forum for project-wide discussion ansible-community/community-topics#202
• [associated vote ended on 2023-03-27] Community Plans part 2 - Discourse Forum for project-wide discussion ansible-community/community-topics#202
• docsite redesign underway! We could do with people poking around, giving feedback, picking issues to help fix etc - https://github.com/ansible/jinja-docsite/issues
• you can see the WIP site at https://ansible.github.io/jinja-docsite/

open floor

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-08/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-08-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-08/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-08-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-08/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-08-19.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2023-03-15

Agenda #679 19:00:04)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2023 #679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Please vote on "Adopt a new upstream community website", voting ends 2023-03-21 [Vote ended on 2023-03-21] Adopt a new upstream community website ansible-community/community-topics#208
• Please vote on "Use a forum to build project-wide participation & discussion", voting ends 2023-03-27 [Vote ended on 2023-03-27] Use a forum to build project-wide participation & discussion ansible-community/community-topics#211
• The community voted to try to include semantic markup into ansible-core 2.15 / Ansible 8 ([Associated vote ended on 2023-03-09] Include semantic markup in plugin DOCUMENTATION strings ansible-community/community-topics#53 (comment))
• It's two weeks until the ansible-core 2.15 feature freeze: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/docs/docsite/rst/roadmap/ROADMAP_2_15.rst#release-phase

Semantic markup

Community site

• Discussions: [associated vote ended on 2023-03-21] Community Plans part 1 - DNS & Website ansible-community/community-topics#201 and [associated vote ended on 2023-03-27] Community Plans part 2 - Discourse Forum for project-wide discussion ansible-community/community-topics#202

open floor

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-15/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-15-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-15/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-15-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-15/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-15-19.00.log.html